ISLAMABAD TONIGHT

WITH NADEEM MALIK

27-01-2012

TOPIC- MEMOGATE SCANDAL

GUESTS- MOEED PIRZADA, SHEIKH WAQAS AKRAM, KHWAJA SAAD RAFIQ

MOEED PIRZADA A JOURNALIST said that PML-N took memo case to the court but then it wanted to withdraw from the case. He said that in the beginning America was neutral but later on helped the government to save it. He said that PML-N and Peoples Party have reached on an understanding for early elections. He said that SC is not in the position to put pressure because it is adjudicating lot of cases. He said that if memo investigations would have proceeded the questions on general Pasha’s visit to London was also going to be asked. He said that PML-N and PPPP consider PTI their common enemy. He said that it is also needed to be observed that what kind of incentives America got by helping a deal on memogate scandal. He said that PML-N took memogate case to the court but phase out from the scene later. He said that people are very foolish because politicians raise slogans and pass time.

SHEIKH WAQAS AKRAM OF PML-Q said that Mian Nawaz Sharif took memogate case to the case but later on he vanished. He said that Mansoor Ajaz lawyer Akram Sheikh was also scolding that Mian Nawaz Sharif is not pursuing the case. He said that Mansoor Ajaz always talks against the Pakistan military and ISI.

He said that PML-Q is not in the favour of early elections. He said that they are elected for five years and want to complete their term. He said that his party members want to complete development programme in their constituencies before the elections.

KHWAJA SAAD RAFIQ OF PML-N said that PML-N is still demanding early elections in the country. He said that he does not know about any deal on memogate but there is some thing which government is trying to hide. He said that the memogate case was highlighted because of the pressure on the government and military after the operation against OBL. He said that PML-N did not backtrack from the memo case and it is still in the court. He said that the court will not let memogate case go they will reach to some conclusion.

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WITN NADEEM MALIK

27-01-2012

مسلم لیگ ن میمو کے مسئلے کو عدالت میں تو لے گئی لیکن پھر وہ اس میں سے نکلنا چاہتی تھی۔ معید پیرزادہ کی اسلام آباد ٹونائٹ میں گفتگو

امریکہ پہلے غیر جانبدار رہا لیکن بعد میں اس نے حکومت کی مدد کی تا کہ حکومت قائم رہے۔ معید پیرزادہ

مسلم لیگ ن اور پیپلز پارٹی نے آپس میں الیکشن کے مسئلے پر آ کر سمجھوتہ کر لیا ہے۔ معید پیرزادہ

سپریم کورٹ میں بہت سے مقدمات چل رہے ہیں اور وہ پریشر ڈالنے کی پوزیشن میں نہیں ہے۔ معید پیرزادہ

میاں نواز شریف میمو کیس عدالت میں لے کر گئے لیکن بعد میں غائب ہو گئے۔ شیخ وقاص اکرم

اکرم شیخ بھی میاں صاحب کے خلاف بولتا رہا کہ وہ اب کیس کی پیروی نہیں کر رہے۔شیخ وقاص اکرم

منصور اعجاز ہمیشہ پاکستان فوج اور آئی ایس آئی کے خلاف بولتا ہے۔ شیخ وقاص اکرم

میمو تحقیقات ہوتیں تو جنرل پاشا کے دورہ لندن پر بھی سوالات پوچھے جاتے۔ معید پیرزادہ

مسلم لیگ ن اور پیپلز پارٹی تحریک انصاف کو مشترکہ دشمن خیال کرتی ہیں۔ معید پیرزادہ

مسلم لیگ ق قبل از وقت الیکشنز کے حق میں نہیں ہے۔ شیخ وقاص اکرم

ہم پانچ سال کے لئیے منتخب ہوئے ہیں اور وہ پورے کرنا چاہتے ہیں۔ شیخ وقاص اکرم

ہم الیکشن سے پہلے اپنے حلقوں میں شروع کئیے گئے ترقیاتی کام پورے کرنا چاہتے ہیں۔ شیخ وقاص اکرم

یہ بھی دیکھنا ہے کہ امریکہ نے حکومت کی ڈیل کروا کے کیا فوائد حاصل کئیے ہیں۔معید پیرزادہ

ہمارا آج بھی یہی نعرہ ہے کہ حکومت قبل از وقت الیکشنز کروائے۔ سعد رفیق

پتہ نہیں حکومت نے کیا ڈیل کی ہے لیکن کچھ تو ہے کہ جس کی پردہ داری ہے۔ سعد رفیق

اوسامہ بن لادن کے خلاف آپریشن کے بعد حکومت اور فوج پر پریشر تھا میمو کا مسئلہ اسی لئیے اٹھایا گیا۔ سعد رفیق

مسلم لیگ ن میمو کیس سے پیچھے نہیں ہٹی مقدمہ آج بھی عدالت میں موجود ہے۔ سعد رفیق

مسلم لیگ ن میمع کیس عدالت لے کر گئی لیکن بعد میں منظر سے ہٹ گئی۔ معید پیرزادہ

میمو کیس سپریم کورٹ کے پاس موجود ہے وہ اسے ایسے ہی نہیں چھوڑے گی کوئی فیصلہ کرے گی۔ سعد رفیق

لوگ بڑے بیوقوف ہیں سیاستدان نعرے لگاتے رہیں گے اور وقت گزارتے رہیں گے۔ معید پیرزادہ

ISLAMABAD TONIGHT

WITH NADEEM MALIK

26-01-2012

TOPIC- MEMOGATE SCANDAL

GUESTS- QAMAR ZAMAN KAIRA, KHWAJA MOHAMMAD ASIF, MOLANA FAZAL UR REHMAN

QAMAR ZAMAN KAIRA OF PPPP said that leader of the opposition Ch Nissar Ahmed always uses derogatory language. He said that the problem memogate scandal was crafted to divert the attention for does not exist any more. He said that Ch Nissar is frustrated because of the defeat on memogate scandal. He said that Mian Shahbaz Sharif has issued a peculiar statement that Mansoor Ajaz can come to Punjab and he will be given complete security. He said that Shahbaz Sharif statement is a seditious against the federation. He said that Mansoor Ajaz is not a trust worthy person. He said that the dialogs between the national institutions should continue otherwise problems are created.

KHWAJA MOHAMMAD ASIF OF PML-N said that institutions have learnt to confront the government just like MQM for their interest. He said that he still goes in front of the memo commission every day. He said that America is a part of the deal between the government and the military on memogate. He said that it was America who broke the deal on NRO too and that Pakistan is not a sovereign country. He said that NATO supply to Afghanistan and drone attacks have begun again because of the deal on memogate. He said that the government and military have signed a deal with America on memogate for their personal interests. He questioned that why drones are not being knock down. He said that PM must have earned some thing out of the deal that is why he has taken a complete U turn from his previous statement. He said that we have compromised every issue with America.

MOLANA FAZAL UR REHMAN OF JUI said that if the problems between the institutions have been solved we should not take them in a negative sense. He said that the confrontation between the institutions is not in the interest of the country. He said that it is not fair to banter some body on his statement of the past. He said that election commission should prepare genuine lists of the voters so the date of the new elections could be decided. He said that a free election commission and neutral care taker government should also be established before the elections. He said that there is a possibility of new elections in September or October this year.

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WITH NADEEM MALIK

26-01-2012

اپوزیشن لیڈر ہمیشہ تضحیک انگیز زبان استعمال کرتے ہیں۔ قمر زمان کائرہ کی اسلام آباد ٹونائٹ میں گفتگو

میمو کیس جس مسئلے سے توجہ ہٹانے کے لئیے کھڑا کیا گیا تھا اب نہیں رہا۔ قمر زمان کائرہ

چوہدری نثار کی فرسٹریشن میمو کیس پر شکست کی وجہ سے ہے۔ قمر زمان کائرہ

شہباز شریف نے عجیب بیان دیا ہے کہ منصور اعجاز پنجاب آ جایں انہیں مکمل تحفظ دیا جائے گا۔ قمر زمان کائرہ

شہباز شریف کا بیان وفاق کے خلاف بغاوت کا اعلان ہے۔ قمر زمان کائرہ

منصور اعجاز ایک ناقابل اعتبار آدمی ہے۔قمر زمان کائرہ

قومی اداروں کے درمیان بات چیت ہوتی رہنی چاہئیے ورنہ مسائل پیدا ہو جاتے ہیں۔ قمر زمان کائرہ

جس طرح ایم کیو ایم آنکھیں دکھاتی ہے اور حکومت مک مکا کر لیتی ہے اداروں نے بھی وہی کام شروع کر دیا ہے۔ خواجہ آصف

ہم اب بھی میمو کیس پر کمشن کے سامنے موجود ہوتے ہیں۔ حواجہ آصف

امریکہ مک مکا کاحصہ ہے افغان نیئٹو کنٹینرز سپلائی اور ڈرون حملے دوبارہ شروع ہو چکے ہیں۔ خواجہ آصف

این آر او بھی امریکہ نے کروایا تھا ہم آزاد ملک نہیں ہیں۔ خواجہ آصف

حکومت اور فوج نے اپنے اپنے مفاد کے لئیے امریکہ کے ساتھ مک مکا کر لیا ہے۔ خواجہ آصف

ڈرون حملے دوبارہ شروع ہو چکے ہیں لیکن انہیں کوئی نہیں گرا رہا۔ خواجہ آصف

وزیراعظم کو بھی مک مکا میں سے کچھ ملا ہو گا اسی لئیے اپنے بیان سے یو ٹرن لے لیا ہے۔ خواجہ آصف

ہم نے ہر معاملہ پر امریکہ کے ساتھ کمپرومائز کیا ہوا ہے۔ خواجہ آصف

اگر اداروں کے درمیان معاملات حل ہو گئے ہیں تو ہمیں اسے منفی انداز میں نہیں لینا چاہئیے۔ فضل الرحمان

اداروں کے درمیان ٹکراؤ ملک کے مفاد میں نہیں ہے۔ فضل الرحمان

ماضی کے بیانات پر کسی کو طعنے دینا درست نہیں ہے۔ فضل الرحمان

الیکشن کمشن ووٹروں کی شفاف لسٹیں تیار کرے تاکہ الیکشن کی تاریخ طے ہو سکے۔ فضل الرحمان

ایک آزاد الیکشن کمشن اور غیر جانبدار عبوری حکومت کا قیام بھی الیکشن سے پہلے ضروری ہے۔ فضل الرحمان

ستمبر یا اکتوبر تک ملک میں نئے الیکشن منعقد ہو سکتے ہیں۔ فضل الرحمان

ISLAMABAD TONIGHT

WITH NADEEM MALIK

25-01-2012

TOPIC- JIHADI GROUPS IN PAKISTAN

GUEST- HAFIZ SAEED AHMED

HAFIZ SAEED AHMED OF JAMAT DAWA was the only guest on the show he said that the situation of the world has been changed but the reality is unchanged. He said that West is even targeting Islamic welfare organizations of their propaganda. He said that America is trying to control the world with might after 9/11. He said that Jamat-e- dawa helped people in earth quake hit areas. He said that even UNO handed over aid goods to Jamat-e-Dawa to deliver in earthquake hit areas. He said that his organization has been banned despite its outstanding social and welfare work for people.

He said that SC and LHC have given their verdict that his organization is not involved in Mumbai attacks. He said that India always continues its propaganda against his organization. He said that Ajmal Qasab has changed his statement many times. He said that he has offered to India that if they do not trust Pakistani courts let take the matter to international court.

He said that he condemns the killing of innocent people in suicide attacks. He said that India accused his organization for Mumbai attacks just after two hours of the incident. He said that his organization is only operating inside Pakistan only and not out side of the country.

He said that his organization is helping refugees and doing welfare work in Afghanistan. He said that he met Abdullah Izam only once in his life. He said that he has delivered edict against suicide attacks that they are against the Sharia law.

He said that the strategy of drone attacks was to pave the way for suicide attacks. He said that tribal people are lured in to suicide attacks saying that Pakistani government and military is helping America to attack on them. He said that if drone attacks stop suicide attacks stop with it. He said that drone attacks are going on at a well though strategy. He said that vast majority of seventy thousand people killed in drone attacks in tribal areas is common people. He said that people who attacked on GHQ and Mehran base are not the friends of Pakistan.

He said that his organization has a regular movement to educate people against suicide attacks.

He said that state is responsible for defense of the country but our government is helpless. He said that our roads have been used to transport American ammunition used against Afghanistan. He said that it is a torment of Allah that same ammunition is being used against our own country now.

He said that any terrorist attack takes place Taliban are accused for that with out confirmation. He said that it is commandment of Allah that confirm before telling any thing to others. He said that India is involved in terrorist attacks against Pakistan and that is why Indian terrorist Sarbasjeet Singh is in jail in Pakistan. He said that our interior minister accuses Lashker-e-Jhangvi for terrorism and later on release their accused people from jail.

He said that he admits that negligence on human rights is being committed. He said that he admits that religious Madrassa are getting foreign aid but he does not believe that the Madrassa are involved in terrorism. He said that India is giving training to the people for terrorist attacks against Pakistan inside Afghanistan. He said that he has been accused for many things but none has been proved against him.

He said that America malign same people it work with. He said that America is working in our area with the help of ISI and at the same time maligning it in the name of his organization.

He said that people who earned dollars during the war against Russia to train people were wrong and people making dollars today are wrong too. He said that he meets general (R) Hammed Gul pretty much every day now a days but he never met him when he was DGISI.

He said that it is a right of Afghan people to fight for their freedom. He said that Afghan Mujahideen do not need the help of Pakistani people and it is the propaganda against our country. He said that the terms of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan and Punjabi Taliban are different forms of propaganda against Pakistan.

He said that he advises America to quit attacks against Pakistan and Afghanistan and go back. He said that America must stop to try to give a role to India to play in Afghanistan. He said that peace can not be restored in our region as long America is present here. He said that America should go back and India should stay within its limits and do not interfere in Afghanistan. He said that Pakistani people should not get involved in militancy but both sides have to share responsibility.

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WITH NADEEM MALIK

25-01-2012

آج دنیا کی صورت حال تبدیل ہو چکی ہے لیکن حقائق تبدیل نہیں ہوئے۔ حافظ سعید احمد کی اسلام آباد ٹونائٹ میں گفتگو

مغرب نے رفاحی اسلامی اداروں کو بھی پروپیگنڈہ کا نشانہ بنایا ہے۔ حافظ سعید احمد

امریکہ نائن الیون کے بعد طاقت کے دباؤ سے دنیا کو کنٹرول کرنے کی کوشش کر رہا ہے۔ حافظ سعید احمد

ہماری جماعت نے زلزلہ کے بعد وہاں کے لوگوں کی بہت مدد کی۔ حافظ سعید احمد

یو این او نے ہمیں زلزلہ زدگان کو مشکل پہاڑی علاقعوں میں سامان تقسیم کرنے کے لئیے دیا۔ حافظ سعید احمد

ہم پر بہترین رفاحی خدمات سر انجام دینے کے باوجود پابندی لگا دی گئی۔ حافظ سعید احمد

سپریم کورٹ اور لاہور ہائی کورٹ نے فیصلہ دیا ہے کہ ہماری جماعت ممبئی حملوں میں ملوث نہیں ہے۔ حافظ سعید احمد

بھارت ہر وقت ہماری جماعت کے خلاف پروپیگنڈہ کرتا رہتا ہے۔ حافظ سعید احمد

اجمل قصاب کئی بار اپنا بیان تبدیل کر چکا ہے۔ حافظ سعید احمد

ہم نے بھارت سے کہا ہے کہ پاکستانی عدالتوں پر اعتبار نہیں تو عالمی عدالت میں جانے کو تیار ہیں۔ حافظسعید احمد

جو بھی خود کش حملوں میں معصوم لوگوں کو مارتا ہے ہم اس کی مزمت کرتے ہیں۔ حافظ سعید احمد

ممبئی حملوں کے دو گھنٹے کے بعد بھارت کی طرف سے ہم پر الزام لگا دیا گیا۔ حافظسعید احمد

ہمارا سارا کام پاکستان کے اندر ہے باہر نہیں ہے۔ حافظسعید احمد

ہم افغانستان میں مہاجرین کی مدد اور دوسرے فلاحی کام کر رہے ہیں۔ حافظسعید احمد

عبداللہ عظام سے میری صرف ایک بار ملاقات ہوئی تھی۔ حافظسعیداحمد

ہم نے باقاعدہ فتوی جاری کیا ہے کہ خود کش حملے شرعی طور پر جائز نہیں ہیں۔ حافظسعیداحمد

ڈرون حملوں کی سٹریجی ہی یہ تھی کہ خود کش حملوں کی راہ ہموار کی جائے۔ حافظسعید احمد

قبائلیوں کو یہ کہہ کر خود کش حملہ کروایا جاتا ہے کہ پاکستان کی فوج اور حکومت امریکہ سے مل کر ان پر ڈرون حملے کروا رہی ہے۔ حافظسعیداحمد

ڈرون حملے رکتے ہیں تو خود کش حملے بھی رک جاتے ہیں۔ حافظسعیداحمد

جی ایچ کیو اور مہران بیس پر حملہ کرنے والے کسی طرح بھی پاکستان کے دوست نہیں ہو سکتے۔ حافظسعیداحمد

ڈرون حملے باقاعدہ سوچے سمجھے طریقے کے تحت کئیے جا رہے ہیں۔ حافظسعیداحمد

قبائل میں ڈرون حملوں سے ہلاک ہونے والوں کی اکثریت عام لوگوں کی ہے۔ حافظسعیداحمد

ہم نے باقاعدہ تحریک بنا کر خود کش حملوں کے خلاف لوگوں کی تربیت کی ہے۔ حافظسعیداحمد

حقیقت میں سٹیٹ ہی ملک کے دفاع کی زمہ دار ہے لیکن ہماری حکومت مجبوری کا شکار ہے۔ حافظسعیداحمد

ہماری سڑکیں افغانستان کے خلاف امریکی بارود لے جانے کے لئیے استعمال ہوئی ہیں۔ حافظ سعید احمد

یہ اللہ کی طرف سے سزاہے کہ وہی بارود پاکستان کے خلاف استعمال ہو رہا ہے۔ حافظسعیداحمد

کوئی بھی حملہ ہوتا ہے تو بغیر تحقیق کے طالبان پر الزام لگا دیا جاتا ہے۔ حافظسعیداحمد

اللہ تعالی کا حکم ہے کہ پہلے تحقیق کرو پھر خبر دو۔ حافظسعیداحمد

پاکستان کے اندر دہشت گرد حملوں میں بھارت ملوث ہے سربسجیت سنگھ دہشت گردی کی وجہ سے جیل میں بند ہے۔ حافظسعیداحمد

وزیرداخلہ پہلے لشکر جھنگوی پر الزام لگاتے ہیں بعد میں ان کے بندے بھی چھوڑ دیتے ہیں۔ حافظسعیداحمد

ہم سے حقوق العباد کے سلسلے میں بہت سی کوتاہیاں ہو رہی ہیں۔ حافظسعیداحمد

دینی مدارس کو باہر پیسے ملتے ہیں مانتا ہوں لیکن یہ نہیں مانتا کہ مدارس دہشت گردی میں ملوث ہیں۔ حافظسعیداحمد

پاکستان میں خود کش حملوں کے لئیے بھارت لوگوں کو افغانستان میں تربیت دیتا ہے۔ حافظسعیداحمد

مجھ پر بہت سے الزمات ہیں لیکن کبھی بھی کوئی ثابت نہیں ہو سکا۔ حافظسعیداحمد

امریکہ جس کے ساتھ مل کر کام کرتا ہے اسی کو بدنام کرتا ہے۔ حافظسعیداحمد

امریکہ آئی ایس آئی کے ساتھ مل کر کام کرتا ہے اور بعد میں ہمارا نام لے کر اسے بدنام کرتا ہے۔ حافظسعیداحمد

جنہوں نے روس کے خلاف جنگ کے زمانے میں ڈالر لئیے وہ غلط تھا آج بھی جو ڈالر لے رہا ہے غلط ہے۔ حافظسعیداحمد

حمید گل سے آجکل میری بڑی ملاقات رہتی ہے جب وہ ڈی جی آئی ایس آئی تھے تو ان سے کبھی نہیں ملا۔ حافظسعیداحمد

افغانستان کے لوگوں کا حق ہے کہ وہ اپنی آزادی کے لئیے لڑیں۔ حافظسعیداحمد

افغانستان کے مجاہدیں کو پاکستان کے لوگوں کی مدد کی ضرورت نہیں ہمارے خلاف پروپیگنڈہ کیا جا رہا ہے۔ حافظسعیداحمد

تحریک طالبان پاکستان اور پنجابی طالبان ہمارے خلاف پروپیگنڈہ کی مختلف شکلیں ہیں۔ حافظسعیداحمد

میرا پیغام ہے کہ امریکہ پاکستان اور افغانستان میں اپنی عسکریت ختم کر کے یہاں سے چلا جائے۔ حافظسعیداحمد

امریکہ بھارت کو افغانستان کے اندر جو رول دینا چاہتا ہے وہ اس سے رک جائے۔ حافظسعیداحمد

جب تک امریکہ ہمارے خطے میں موجود ہے اور حملے کر رہا ہے امن نہیں ہو سکتا۔ حافظسعیداحمد

امریکہ واپس جائے اور بھارت اپنے ملک میں رہے افغانستان میں دخل نہ دے۔ حافظسعیداحمد

پاکستان کے لوگوں کو عسکریت نہیں کرنی چاہئیے لیکن تالی دونوں ہاتھوں سے بجتی ہے۔ حافظسعیداحمد

ISLAMABAD TONIGHT

WITH NADEEM MALIK

24-01-2012

TOPIC- BRANNIGANS OF PAKISTAN POLITICS

GUESTS- TARIQ AZEEM, PROFESSOR IBRAHIM KHAN, ABDUL QADIR BALOCH, JUSTICE TARIQ MAHMOOD, SHARJEEL MEMON

TARIQ AZEEM OF PML said that may be there is some story behind Mansoor Ajaz denial to come to Pakistan. He said that the problems of the people are not being solved and memo case has been postponed for another two weeks. He said that if we look at the related issues with memo it turns into a very important matter. He said that it seems like there is a story behind the curtain other wise army chief submitted his signed affidavit to memogate commission.

He said that Nawaz Sharif and Imran Khan are demanding early elections so there is a possibility of elections this year.

PROFESSOR IBRAHIM KHAN OF JI said that the memo is a reality because American officials have confirmed it. He said that the army is not giving any importance to memogate at the moment and witness of the case is not coming either. He said that 2nd of May incident; Mehran base attack and Salala check post attacks are more important than the memogate scandal. He said that army is a real plaintiff in memogate scandal but is not taking any interest in it.

He said that there is a possibility of elections in the country in October or November this year. He said that to set a care taker set up three months before the elections is now part of the constitution. He said that the President and Prime Minister are the leaders of their parties so care taker set up should replace them also. He said that it is a peculiar situation that SC and election commission having a conflict. He said that the media is a reflection of the society and will only show what is happening. He said that if army chief will raise the issue of memogate media definitely will talk about it.

ABDUL QADIR BALOCH OF PML-N said that the problem of PML-N was to form a commission on memogate and not to resolve it. He said that now it is up to memogate commission that how to resolve this problem.

JUSTICE (R) TARIQ MAHMOOD said that Haqqani will not provide any evidence against himself and Mansoor Ajaz has to come to Pakistan. He said that as long Mansoor Ajaz statement is not taken nothing will happen in the memogate issue.

SHARJEEL MEMON OF PPPP said that Mansoor Ajaz tried to astray Pakistani people and now every body should forget about it. He said that we should not pay any attention to memogate issue because of Mansoor Ajaz reputation of the past.

He said that Peoples Party will hold elections only after its constitutional limit is over. He said that Peoples Party will hold free and fair elections according to the constitution. He said that media should talk about the issues of the people instead of irrelevant things. He said that the memo was a balloon and it has been deflated.

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میمو ایک غبارہ تھا جس میں سے ہوا نکل چکی ہے۔ شرجیل میمن
منصور اعجاز کے پاکستان نہ آنے کے پیچھے شاید کوئی کہانی ہے۔ طارق عظیم
ہمارا مسئلہ صرف میمو پر کمشن بنوانا تھا اس کو حل کروانا ہمارا مسئلہ نہیں۔ عبدالقادر بلوچ
حقانی خود تو اپنے خلاف ثبوت نہیں دے گا منصور اعجاز کو پاکستان آنا پڑے گا۔ جسٹس طارق محمود
اس وقت فوج میمو کیس کو اہمیت نہیں دے رہی اور گواہ بھی نہیں آ رہا۔ پروفیسر ابراہیم
… لگتا ہے کہ پردے کے پیچھے کوئی کہانی ہے ورنہ آرمی چیف نے اپنا دستخط کیا ہوا بیان میمو کشن میں داخل کیا تھا۔طارق عظیم
میمو کیس میں حقیقی مدعی فوج ہے جو اب دلچسپی نہیں لے رہی۔ پروفیسر ابراہیم
اس سال اکتوبر یا نومبر میں الیکش ہونے کا امکان ہے۔ پروفیسر ابراہیم
نواز شریف اور عمران خان قبل از وقت الیکشن چاہتے ہیں اس سال الیکشن کا امکان موجود ہے۔ طارق عظیم
صدر اپنی پارٹیوں کے سربراہ ہیں ان کی جگہ بھی عبوری عہدیدار آنے چاہییں۔ پروفیسر ابراہیم
عجیب صورت حال ہے کہ سپریم کورٹ اور الیکشن کمشن آمنے سامنے کھڑے ہیں۔ پروفیسر ابراہیم

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میمو کیس میں حقیقی مدعی فوج ہے جو اب دلچسپی نہیں لے رہی۔ پروفیسر ابراہیم
اس سال اکتوبر یا نومبر میں الیکش ہونے کا امکان ہے۔ پروفیسر ابراہیم
میمو ایک غبارہ تھا جس میں سے ہوا نکل چکی ہے۔ شرجیل میمن
منصور اعجاز کے پاکستان نہ آنے کے پیچھے شاید کوئی کہانی ہے۔ طارق عظیم
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میمو ایک غبارہ تھا جس میں سے ہوا نکل چکی ہے۔ شرجیل میمن
منصور اعجاز کے پاکستان نہ آنے کے پیچھے شاید کوئی کہانی ہے۔ طارق عظیم
ہمارا مسئلہ صرف میمو پر کمشن بنوانا تھا اس کو حل کروانا ہمارا مسئلہ نہیں۔ عبدالقادر بلوچ
حقانی خود تو اپنے خلاف ثبوت نہیں دے گا منصور اعجاز کو پاکستان آنا پڑے گا۔ جسٹس …

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میمو کے پیچھے کون لوگ ہیں تحقیقاتی کمشن کو پتہ لگانا چاہئیے۔ آفاق احمد
منصور اعجاز کے بارے میں حکومتی بیانات ایسے تھے کہ انہوں نے پاکستان نہ آنے کا فیصلہ کیا۔ شائق عثمانی
ہو سکتا ہے کہ منصور اعجاز پاکستان آتے تو ان کے ساتھ سلمان تاثیر والا سلوک کیا جاتا۔شائق عثمانی
منصور اعجاز کا بیان ویڈیو کانف..

32:09Add to Islamabad Tonight – 19th January 2012Chaudhry Aitzaz Ahsan Advocate in an Exclusive Interview With Nadeem Malik in fresh episode of Islamabad Tonight on Aaj Tv. http://www.awaz.tvAwazAaj2,377 views NadeemMalikLive said: میرے خیال میں امکان ہے کہ سینٹ کے الیکشن کے بعد ملک میں عام انتخابات ہو جائیں۔ اعتزاز احسن میں کئیر ٹیکر حکومت میں کسی عہدے کا امیدوار نہیں عبوری حکومت صرف تین ماہ کے لئیے ہوتی ہے۔ مسلم لیگ ن کے اسمبلیوں سے استعفے دینے سے سینٹ کے الیکشن نہیں رک سکتے۔ فیصلہ وزیراعظم کے خلاف بھی ہو گیا تو اپیل کی …

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منصور اعجاز کے پاکستان نی آنے کے پیچھے شاید کوئی کہانی ہے۔ طارق عظیم کی اسلام آباد ٹونائٹ میں گفتگو

میمو ایک حقیقت ہے امریکی عہدیدار اس کے ملنے کی تصدیق کر چکے ہیں۔ پروفیسر ابراہیم

عوام کے مسائل حل نہیں ہو رہے اور میمو کا معاملہ دو ہفتے اور آگے چلا گیا ہے۔ طارق عظیم

ہمارا مسئلہ صرف میمو پر کمشن بنوانا تھا اس کو حل کروانا ہمارا مسئلہ نہیں ہے۔ عبدالقادر بلوچ

اب یہ میمو کشن کا کام ہے کہ وہ دیکھے کہ یہ مسئلہ کیسے حل ہونا ہے۔ عبدالقادر بلوچ

حقانی خود تو اپنے خلاف ثبوت نہیں دے گا منصور اعجاز کو پاکستان آنا پڑے گا۔ جسٹس طارق محمود

جب تک منصور اعجاز کا بیان نہیں لیا جاتا میمو کیس میں کچھ نہیں ہو گا۔ جسٹس طارق محمود

اس وقت فوج میمو کیس کو اہمیت نہیں دے رہی اور گواہ بھی نہیں آ رہا۔ پروفیسر ابراہیم

منصور اعجاز نے پاکستان کےلوگوں کو گمراہ کیا اب میمو کیس کو بھول جانا چاہئیے۔ شرجیل میمن

منصور اعجاز کی ماضی کی شہرت کی وجہ سے ہمیں میمو کے مسئلہ پر توجہ ہی نہیں دینی چاہئیے تھی۔ شرجیل میمن

میمو کے ساتھ ملے واقعات کو دیکھا جائے تو میمو بہت اہم مسئلہ ہے۔ طارق عظیم

لگتا ہے کہ پردے کے پیچھے کوئی کہانی ہے ورنہ آرمی چیف نے اپنا دستخط کیا ہوا بیان میمو کشن میں داخل کیا تھا۔طارق عظیم

دو مئی، مہران بیس اور سلالہ چیک پوسٹ پر حملہ زیادہ اہم معاملات ہیں۔ پروفیسر ابراہیم

میمو کیس میں حقیقی مدعی فوج ہے جو اب دلچسپی نہیں لے رہی۔ پروفیسر ابراہیم

ہم اپنی آئینی مدت پوری کرنے کے بعد الیکشن کروایں گے۔ شرجیل میمن

اس سال اکتوبر یا نومبر میں الیکش ہونے کا امکان ہے۔ پروفیسر ابراہیم

نواز شریف اور عمران خان قبل از وقت الیکشن چاہتے ہیں اس سال الیکشن کا امکان موجود ہے۔ طارق عظیم

پیپلز پارٹی آئین کے مطابق فری اور فئیر الیکشن کروائے گی۔ شرجیل میمن

الیکشن سے تین ماہ پہلے عبوری حکومت کا قیام اب آئین کا حصہ ہے۔ پروفیسر ابراہیم

صدر اور وزیراعظم اپنی پارٹیوں کے سربراہ ہیں ان کی جگہ بھی عبوری عہدیدار آنے چاہییں۔ پروفیسر ابراہیم

عجیب صورت حال ہے کہ سپریم کورٹ اور الیکشن کمشن آمنے سامنے کھڑے ہیں۔ پروفیسر ابراہیم

میڈیا کو چاہئیے کہ غیر ضروری باتوں کی بجائے عوام کے مسائل پر بات کرے۔ شرجیل میمن

میڈیا معاشرے کا آئینہ دار ہے جو ہو گا وہی دکھائے گا۔ پروفیسر ابراہیم

چیف آف آرمی سٹاف میمو کے مسئلے کو اٹھائے تو میڈیا تو اس پر بات کرے گا۔ پروفیسر ابراہیم

میمو ایک غبارہ تھا جس میں سے ہوا نکل چکی ہے۔ شرجیل میمن

Rawalpindi January 23:The US Investigation Report into the Salala incident of 26th November 2011, involving aerial strikes by US aircraft and helicopters resulting into Shahadat (killing) of 24 Pakistani soldiers and injury to 13 others, was received by the General Headquarters (GHQ) Pakistan Army on the 24th of December 2011. The report received is the same unclassified version as available on the US Central Command (CENTCOM) Website. The analysis of the US Investigation Report has been carried out by Pakistan Military with a view to reiterate facts and correct the perspective.

Pakistan does not agree with several portions and findings of the Investigation Report as these are factually not correct. The fundamental cause of the incident of 26th November 2011 was the failure of US / ISAF to share its near-border operation with Pakistan at any level. This obviously was a major omission, as were several others, like the complicated chain of command, complex command and control structure and unimaginative / intricate Rules of Engagement as well as lack of unified military command in Afghanistan. In addition to the foregoing, US / ISAF violated all mutually agreed procedures with Pakistan for near-border operations put in place to avert such uncalled for actions. It also carried out unprovoked engagement of Pakistani Posts located inside Pakistan violating the US / ISAF mandate which is limited to Afghanistan alone.

The US Investigation Report is structured around the argument of “self defence” and “proportional use of force”, an argument which is contrary to facts. Continued engagement by US / ISAF despite being informed about the incident at multiple levels by Pakistan Military within minutes of initiation of US / ISAF fire, belies the “self defence” and “proportional use of force” contention. Affixing partial responsibility of the incident on Pakistan is therefore, unjustified and unacceptable.

NADEEM MALIK

The United States has carried out more than 300 drone strikes since 2004 in pakistan, yet this operation has never been debated in US Congress; more than seven years after it began, there has not even been a single vote for or against it. This campaign is not carried out by the Air Force; it is being conducted by the CIA.
Under the War Powers Resolution — a Vietnam-era law that requires notifying …Congress of military operations within 48 hours and getting its authorization after 60 days, but not any more.
America does not declare war anymore; the last time Congress actually did so was in 1942 — against Bulgaria, Hungary and Romania. “We don’t buy war bonds or pay war taxes anymore. During World War II, 85 million Americans purchased war bonds that brought the government $185 billion; in the last decade, we bought none and instead gave the richest 5 percent of Americans a tax break.” NYTSee More

NADEEM MALIK

Do you think Pakistan should open the doors once again for American Special Operation Forces (so called trainers and contractors) after what the country has experienced in recent years ? کیا پاکستان میں امریکی کمانڈوز اور سی آئی اے کے ایجنٹوں کو دوبارہ گھسنے کی اجازت دی جانی چاھیے ؟

Pakistan has lost almost 40 thousand lives since 9/11, over 4000 men of security forces were martyed and the whole country faced hundreds of sucide attacks and bomb blasts every year and hundreds of CIA-led drone strikes, NATO attacks on Pakistani posts like Salala, Abbottabad raid and Raymond Davis killings. Do we still need more ?

PAKISTAN’S PERSPECTIVE ON INVESTIGATION REPORT CONDUCTED BY BG STEPHEN CLARK INTO 26 TH NOVEMBER 2011 US LED ISAF / NATO FORCES ATTACK ON PAKISTANI VOLCANO AND BOULDER POSTS IN MOHMAND AGENCY

Note: This Report does not have any other versions

23 January 2012

PAKISTAN’S PERSPECTIVE ON INVESTIGATION REPORT CONDUCTED BY BG STEPHEN CLARK INTO 26NOVEMBER 2011 US LED ISAF / NATO FORCES ATTACK ON PAKISTANI VOLCANO AND BOULDER POSTS IN MOHMAND AGENCY

Note:

Quotes that have been taken directly from the US Investigation Report and reproduced in this document appear in red, followed by reference of each from the original US / ISAF Investigation Report.

General 1. The US Investigation Report into the Salala incident of 26
th November 2011, involving aerial strikes by US aircraft and helicopters resulting into Shahadat (killing) of 24 Pakistani soldiers and injury to 13 others, was received by the General Headquarters (GHQ) Pakistan Army on the 24th of December 2011. The report received is the same unclassified version as available on the Central Command (CENTCOM) Website. The analysis of the US Investigation Report conducted by Brigadier General (BG) Clark has been carried out hereafter with a view to reiterate facts and correct the perspective.

Mandate of the US / NATO Investigation Report
2. It is unfortunate to note that the mandate given to the US Investigating Officer (BG Stephen Clark), did not include affixing specific responsibility for the grave incident (Reference: General Mattis‟ letter to Brigadier General Stephen Clark dated 28 November 2011 appointing him as Investigating Officer, Page 3, Paras 9 and 10). Without this specific mandate the Investigation Report could not have been complete.

3. It is also revealing to read the mandate given to NATO‟s (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) Allied Joint Force Command (JFC) Brunssum team (headed by Brigadier General Michael Jorgensen) concurrently investigating the incident. In words of the US Investigation Report;
“The JFC Brunssum goal was to conduct an operationally focused fact-finding investigation into the circumstances surrounding the engagement between friendly forces and PAKMIL (Pakistan

Military) ……..”

. (Reference: Page 6, Para 1, Lines 11 through 15). Implicit in the mandate is the fact that, Pakistan was considered in an adversarial role and not part of friendly forces.

Background
4. For developing a correct perspective, it is important to give some background before going on to the specifics of the Incident (26
th November 2011) itself. The background is covered hereafter under three headings i.e. “Events Leading up to the Incident”, “Environment” and finally “Coordination Mechanism”.

Events Leading up to the Incident
5. Although the incident of 26
th November 2011, was the gravest, it unfortunately was not the first of its kind. The current incident was preceded by four others which happened between June 2008 and July 2011 and resulted in loss of 18 precious lives of our soldiers and injury to 10 others, including an incident at Ziarat Post (Mohmand Agency) on 17th June 2011 which happened close to the area of 26th November 2011 incident. The US / International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) are well aware of these incidents and each time resolved to prevent recurrence. It is illuminating to mention the details of these incidents, the first of which took place on 10th June 2008 at Goraprai Post of Pakistan located in Mohmand Agency, in which US / ISAF carried out an unprovoked aerial strike resulting in Shahadat (death) of eleven Pakistani soldiers and injuries to seven others. The second such incident happened on 30th September 2010 in Kurram Agency at Kharlachi Post, where two US helicopters carried out unprovoked firing on Pakistani Post resulting in Shahadat (death) of three soldiers and serious injuries to three. The third incident took place on 19th July 2011 in Angoor Adda Sector of South Waziristan Agency, wherein; mortar and artillery fire suddenly erupted, initiated by US/ISAF against Pakistani Border Posts at 0945 hours (Pakistan Standard Time). Despite repeated contacts with ISAF, including Lieutenant General (LG) Keen and Major General (MG) Laster and activation of other coordination mechanisms, the fire which was proving fatal continued for several hours resulting in the Shahadat (death) of four Pakistani soldiers. As US / ISAF failed to bring the fire to an end, COAS General Kayani had to intervene personally with Chief ODRP (Office of the Defence

Representative Pakistan), LG Keen at the US Embassy Islamabad, warning, that if the fire did not stop immediately he would order an enhanced level of response, beyond the one which was already being given by Pakistan Military up until that time in the shape of small arms and mortar fire. This intervention finally brought the fire to a halt. The resultant US / ISAF inquiry into this, and other similar incidents remained shy of accepting responsibility and hence failed to hold anyone accountable, as far as we (Pakistanis) know.

Environment
6. Before going into the details of the incident of 26
th November 2011 and the US Investigation Report, it is important to understand the environment as well as the coordination mechanisms which existed to prevent exactly such an eventuality.

7. After an extensive nine months operation in Mohmand Agency, Pakistan Army cleared the entire area upto the border with Afghanistan and established several border posts including Volcano and Boulder at the end of September 2011. When the Pakistani forces were carrying out operations in Mohmand Agency, US / ISAF were kept informed and they carried out some supportive operations on the Afghan side, along and close to River Kunar. With no presence of US / ISAF / Afghan forces close to the border on Afghan side, these Pakistani Posts were critical for prevention of terrorists‟ infiltration from either side of the border. This is substantiated by the US Investigation Report, which when referring to the Area of Operation SAYAQA states,
“…….. there had been neither Coalition nor ANSF (Afghan National Security Forces) presence in the area for some time” (Reference: Page 15, Para 18, Last Line). Pakistan has been experiencing infiltration of terrorists from Afghan Province of Kunar which had become a safe haven for terrorists of all hues including those who had escaped the Pakistan Army‟s operation in Mohmand. Since September 2011, no crossing from Pakistani side from Mohmand Agency into Afghanistan had taken place, however, unfortunately several large (and some small) scale attacks on Pakistani Border Posts and civilians had occurred regularly, emanating from Kunar and Nuristan provinces of Afghanistan into Dir, Chitral, Bajaur and Mohmand areas of Pakistan. There were seven such major attacks by terrorists from Afghan side

resulting in loss of 102 personnel and injuries to 25 others (security forces and civilians). Pakistan has repeatedly provided specific information to US / ISAF about presence of hard-core terrorist elements including some High Value Targets located in the Afghanistan Province of Kunar and Nuristan.

8. The Pakistani Posts in question (Volcano and Boulder) are located approximately 1450 metres apart on a kidney shaped barren ridge, which is just under 8000 feet high
(Refer Figure 1 below). The posts were (and are) located 300-400 metres from the international border inside Pakistan. There are a few abandoned huts opposite Volcano Post. Village Maya {map references of which were asked for by Pakistan Military and received from ICEPAK-ODRP (ISAF Coordination Element Pakistan-ODRP) on 29 December 2011 and where ISAF ostensibly carried out operations on night 25/26 November 2011} lies approximately 1.5 kilometres from the Pakistani Boulder Post and 1.2 kilometres from the border. The Pakistani Posts and most of Maya Village are mutually inter-visible. Each of these Pakistani Posts had 5-6 bunkers none of which were underground, but were constructed above the surface of the 8000 feet high ridge which was devoid of vegetation. All these bunkers, therefore, were easily visible from afar. These bunkers and posts had been there for over two months. Volcano Post had 27 personnel while Boulder had 25. They belonged to 7 Azad Kashmir (AK) Regiment of Pakistan Army which had played a crucial role in clearing Mohmand Agency from terrorists and, therefore, were well familiar with the environment and their surroundings. In the absence of any ISAF / Afghan National Army (ANA) / Afghan Border Police (ABP) presence opposite these, and some of the other posts in Mohmand Agency, any movement which is not shared, especially at night close to the border, is assumed to be hostile. Fire, therefore, is carried out on such movement(s). This is true for both ISAF and Pakistan Military for entire Area of Responsibility of ISAF‟s Regional Command – East (RC-E) and that of Pakistan Military‟s 11 Corps. Fire is also carried out on suspected movement(s), such a fire is called “speculative fire”. On any given night several Pakistani Posts, if and when deemed necessary carry out speculative fire.

9. Opposite Mohmand Agency, where these posts were located, US / ISAF had carried out at least 1-2 operations in and around Village Maya prior to 26

th November incident in the months of October / November 2011, which involved ground forces and air support. Even when active ground operations are not taking place, an average of 2-3 US / ISAF aerial platforms operate opposite Mohmand Agency on daily basis; these include Intelligence Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR) aircraft, fighter aircraft, helicopters and drones. Resultantly, it is inconceivable that these or any other Pakistani Posts in the area were / are not known to US / ISAF.

Coordination Mechanism
10. Having elaborated the environment, it is essential to understand the detailed coordination mechanism and mutually agreed procedures which existed between Pakistan and US / ISAF for effective, incident-free, near-border operations. The coordination mechanism includes a number of forums at three different tiers i.e. at strategic, operational and tactical, all meant to build redundancy by timely sharing of information and coordinating near-border operations. At the strategic level, Military Operations Directorate of GHQ interfaces with ODRP headed by (LG Keen) based at the US Embassy Islamabad. Within the US Embassy another setup called ICEPAK also interacts with Military Operations Directorate, GHQ. In addition to this interface, Military Operations Directorate also has communication through the office of the Director General Military Operations (DGMO), with the Headquarters ISAF represented by MG Nicholson, but more regularly with HQ ISAF Joint Command (IJC) represented by MG Laster. Pakistan‟s Air Headquarters also interacts/coordinates with Tactical Monitoring Cell (TMC) located within US Embassy Islamabad and working alongside ODRP. The strategic coordination mechanism is aided by exchange of Liaison Officers (LOs) at operational level.

11. These operational level measures are further reinforced by tactical level arrangements. These include Border Coordination Centres (BCCs) where Pakistan, US / ISAF and Afghanistan sides are represented by Liaison Officers

for tactical level coordination. One such centre is located opposite Mohmand Agency inside Afghanistan at a place called Nawa. It was this Centre which was responsible for the coordination of operations where the incident took place. These BCCs are centrally linked to Joint Operations Centre at RC-E Bagram through Joint Coordination Centre (JCC) at Torkham with the purpose of sharing operational information and assisting in resolving issues. Additionally, Border Flag Meetings are also organized at local / tactical levels to coordinate routine issues. There are a total of twenty six Pakistani Military LOs deputed for the aforementioned purposes.

12. There also exist mutually agreed procedures for near-border operations. These include; effective utilization of border coordination mechanism, sharing of information about impending operations and coordinating requests for establishing blocking position / conducting complementary operations on the other side of the border. Moreover, in case, if troops of one side come under fire which is originating from across the border, immediate sharing of information about point of origin of fire is done with the side wherefrom the fire is originating. The responsibility thereafter to bring the fire to a halt is of the country from where fire is originating. Finally, in the eventuality of both sides opening fire on each other, immediate cessation of fire must take place as soon as communication is established. Unfortunately, on 26
th November 2011, US / ISAF violated all these mutually agreed procedures.

Unfolding of Events
13. Having explained the background (Events leading up to the Incident, Environment, Coordination Mechanism), the details of the 26
th November 2011 incident are covered hereafter using the US Investigation Report.

14. The unfolding of events is explained in the succeeding paragraphs under the same three stages or sections {
Stage 1: Preparation and initial operation, Stage 2: Contact and lethal action, Stage 3: Reaction. (Reference: Page 11, Para 10)} as enunciated in the US Investigation Report, quoting from the report itself to highlight discrepancies and omissions in US/ISAF version of events so as to

bring facts to the fore. Although, Pakistan Military has differences with some of the timings of the unfolding of the events as given in the US Investigation Report, it has chosen to use the same timings (as given in the US Report) for analyzing, so as to avoid confusion and use a common basis. For the same reason Pakistan Military has also not questioned the existence of an operation called SAYAQA, planned and conducted on night 25/26 November 2011 by US / ISAF.

Stage 1: Preparation and Initial Operation by US / ISAF

(Preparation and Insertion through Helicopters upto Pre-Contact)

15. What we now know as Operation SAYAQA, was not shared at any level with the Pakistan Military despite multiple existing arrangements between the two sides to do so. The incident is even more regrettable because a few hours prior to it, Commander ISAF (General Allen) and at least two of his senior staff members were in GHQ to coordinate and share details of exactly such operations which ISAF now claims to have conducted on the night of 25/26 November 2011. Major Generals Nicholson and Laster who accompanied General Allen to GHQ on 25 November 2011, briefed DGMO about some other operations in another zone but chose not to share anything about an operation opposite Salala which was to happen the same night and so close to the border. MG Laster at the time of visiting GHQ had already been briefed by his staff about the operation opposite Salala area planned for night 25/26 November 2011. The operation was named SAYAQA. The US Investigation Report states that,
“The initial CONOP (Concept of Operations) proposed insertion at a Helicopter Landing Zone (HLZ), which was within 1km (kilometre) of the Pakistan (PAK) border…… Accordingly, it was briefed to the IJC’s DCOS JOPS (ISAF Joint Command’s Deputy Chief of Staff – Joint Operations), U.S. Marine Corps Major General (MajGen) James Laster on 22 November 2011. He made two demands: move the HLZ further away from the border, effectively reducing this to a Level 1 CONOP; and, confirm the location of Pakistan’s border checkpoints (Pakistani Posts). The CONOP was rebriefed to him on 23 November 2011 with a HLZ (known as HLZ HOLDEM) 1.3km to the north of the objective (Maya Village) and

2.3km from the Pakistan border, and a map produced showing the known PAK border checkpoints (Pakistani Posts). The map did not show checkpoints (Pakistani Posts) in the area where the engagements took place. The CONOP was then approved by MajGen Laster in his separate capacity as USFOR-A DCOS Interoperability (United States Forces in Afghanistan’s Deputy Chief of Staff)”

(Reference: Page 11, Para 11.a. of US Investigation Report). MG Laster‟s one observation of moving the HLZ away from the border was addressed, the other i.e. “confirm the location of Pakistan’s border checkpoints” (Reference: Page 11, Para 11.a., Lines 6-7 of US Investigation Report) was not. It is clear from the foregoing that the Pakistani Posts were not verified, despite instructions by MG Laster. When MG Laster was re-briefed on the CONOP on 23 November 2011, he should have been told about the Pakistani Posts. As he wasn‟t told it implies the staff did not carry out adequate pre-mission preparation. This raises serious questions about the planning process because the confirmation of Pakistani posts could easily have been done by a simple ISR sweep. The Investigation Report has also recommended the same (Reference: Page 27, Para 43 of US Investigation Report).

16. The CONOP approved by MG Laster should have been shared at various levels in the existing elaborate coordination mechanism meant for this very purpose. It wasn‟t – intentionally so, due to the mistrust amongst the ISAF personnel towards Pakistan Military. In the words of the US Investigation Report,
“The REL (releasable) PAK CONOP was not released to the PAKMIL in a timely manner – contrary to SOPs (Standard Operating Procedures), order and directives – because of a prevailing sense of mistrust amongst the three forces (PAKMIL, ANSF and Coalition Forces)” (Reference: Page 28, Para 48, Lines 6 through 8 of US Investigation Report).

17. The US Investigation Report states,
“The NBCC (Nawa Border Coordination Centre) was not provided with a copy of the CONOP through official channels but received a “back channel” copy from an interested third party (reference is not understood)…… ICEPAK (ISAF Coordination Element Pakistan)

was not provided with a copy of the CONOP

“.(Reference: Page 12, Para 11.b., Lines 3 through 8). “The ODRP usually receives near-border CONOPs in advance; however, the CONOP for Operation SAYAQA had not been sent to the ODRP” (Reference: Page 14, Para 15, Lines 3 through 5 of US Investigation Report).

18. It is interesting to note that this was not the first time that operations in Maya Village were being carried out; US / ISAF had already conducted 1-2 operations in and around the area of Maya Village in the months of October / November, prior to 26
th November incident. It is not possible that even during the previous operation(s), US / ISAF made an innocent omission of not checking the details of the Pakistani Posts.

(Contact and Lethal Action by ISAF)

19. There is no doubt in the minds of Pakistan Military that US / ISAF troops were aware of the border alignment, as at least 1-2 operations had been carried out in and around the Maya Village prior to 26
th November incident during the months of October / November. According to the US Investigation Report “The GF (Ground Forces) were aware of the heightened threat as Coalition Forces had experienced several contacts (coming under fire) in this area, the last being 5 October 2011″ (Reference: Page 15, Para 18, Lines 4-5). This was the same area where operation was being carried out on 26th November 2011. Investigation Report further confirms the fact that US / ISAF troops were aware of the Border when it states, “At 2206 hours (Afghanistan Standard Time), all elements were “boots on the ground” at HLZ HOLDEM. The GFTL (Ground Forces Team Leader) noted that it was uncharacteristically quiet. As the special operators adjusted to their environment they looked up at a dark gray moonless sky and fixed their eyes upon the rocky ridgeline (the general location of Pakistani Posts) as a reference because it was the only contrasting image that they could see; they were aware that this was the border with Pakistan”. (Reference: Page 15, Para 20, Lines 1 through 5).

20. According to the US Investigation Report,
“The GF comprised a team of 14 U.S. Special Operations Forces …….. and an ANA CDO (Commando) Company (100 men)” (Reference: Page 15, Para 18, Lines 1 through 3). The Investigation Report goes on to state, “The CONOP was rebriefed to him (MG Laster) on 23 November 2011 with a HLZ (known as HLZ HOLDEM) 1.3km to the north of the objective and 2.3km from the Pakistan border” (Reference: Page 11, Para 11.a., Lines 7 through 9). The GF were, according to the Investigation Report, in Maya Village at 2309 hours, when they came under fire, “At 2309 hours the GF came under heavy machine gun fire, the tracer rounds indicating that it came from the eastern ridgeline near the border …. Following the initial contact of heavy machine gun fire, the rest of the ME (Main Elements) and SE1 (Supporting Elements) were engaged by effective mortar fire; …. coming from a point on the ridge…… the machine gun fire did not stop but increased and a second mortar round which landed only 50m (metres) from the group, divided the force” (Reference: Page 16, Paras 22,23 and 24). According to the Investigation Report, it was in response to this Pakistani fire and in self defence that the GF asked for air support. The aerial platforms then engaged the Pakistani Posts, according to the Report, for “a 90 minute period” (Reference: Page 4, Para 1, Line 9 of US Investigation Report) (factually Pakistani Posts had been engaged for two hours). In fact the Pakistani Posts had never fired in the direction where US / ISAF patrol (without sharing any information with Pakistan Military) was ostensibly operating. The speculative fire from Pakistan side was undertaken on a suspected militant movement by firing only three mortar and a few machine gun rounds at a location only 400 metres from the Volcano Post, a location which was already registered and which lay almost 1.5 to 2 kilometres away from Maya Village, and in a different direction. Therefore, there is absolutely no chance that this fire could have landed even close to US / ISAF GF, let alone being effective. It is, therefore, evident from the aforementioned detailed account that, by US / ISAF‟s own admission, the GF was in Maya Village at 2309 hours (The exact map references / LAT/LONGs of Maya Village were asked for, and provided to Pakistan Military by ICEPAK-ODRP, obviating any possibility of confusion). Even

if they were not in Maya Village at the time, they just could not have been at the location where Pakistani Posts carried out speculative fire, as this was temporally not possible. On any given night
several Pakistani posts carry out speculative fire if and when deemed necessary.

21.
Figure – 2 below is illuminating. The Figure highlights the distance of the HLZ to Maya Village based on what has been stated in the US / ISAF Investigation Report, “The CONOP was rebriefed to him (MG Laster) on 23 November 2011 with a HLZ (known as HLZ HOLDEM) 1.3km to the north of the objective (Maya Village) and 2.3km from the Pakistan border” (Reference: Page 11, Para 11.a., Lines 7 through 9). It also indicates the direction of Pakistani speculative fire which was in a totally different direction. If the GF were, as per timings quoted above, in Maya Village, busy in their operation when they allegedly came under Pakistani Fire; for the report to draw linkage of US / ISAF aerial response to this fire to justify its unprovoked attack is unjustified and violative of self defence ROE (Rules of Engagement).

22. As there are legal implications of using a force as the US / ISAF did, in the manner that it did, therefore, “self defence” has been used to justify an unwarranted and disproportionate response. The ROE of self defence could have only been used, if the fire had been effective, hence the Investigation Report goes to great lengths to assert that Pakistani fire was effective
“a second mortar round, which landed only 50m from the group, divided the force” (Reference: Page 16, Para 24, Lines 1-2). If the fire of mortar landed so close, there should have been casualties, but according to the US / ISAF Investigation Report itself, “…….by 0400 hours they were back at their base with no casualties” (Reference: Page 18, Para 31). Not only was the response, not in self defence, it was

disproportionate, excessive and sustained which resulted in death of 24 soldiers while 13 sustained injuries. The unprovoked engagement thus left behind 7 widows and 16 orphans. By the Investigation Report‟s own admission it continued for 90 minutes (actually it continued for two hours) and it involved two F – 15s, two Attack Helicopters (AH) – 64 Apaches, one Attack Cargo (AC) 130 and a Multi-mission Cargo (MC) – 12 Intelligence Surveillance Reconnaissance (ISR) aircraft. There were drones in the air as well. The F-15s, Apaches and AC-130 all unloaded full ordnance, including Hellfire missiles on the Pakistani Posts,
“At 0039 hours, an AH-64D engaged an identified tripod weapon inside a bunker in EA-1 (Engagement Area-1) and destroyed it with a HELLFIRE missile” (Reference: Page 13, Para 12, Lines 15 through 17 of US Investigation Report). These weapon platforms‟ continuous engagement, spread over as long as almost 2 hours, does not support the assertion that the force used was proportionate and in self defence. To justify the grave US / ISAF excesses committed on the night of 25/26 November, the Investigation Report tries to contort the facts and confuse the issue by stating that, “The explosions of the AC-130H engagement reverberated around the valleys. Despite the effectiveness of the engagement, the GF continued to be engaged by mortars and machine guns” (Reference: Page 17, Para 25, Lines 4-5, Para 26, Lines 1-2). Any person even with rudimentary understanding of military operations would know, that when under attack from aerial platforms, the ground troops – in this case Pakistani Border Posts personnel – would respond to the immediate threat i.e. aerial platforms firing on them rather than on a ground force one and a half to two kilometres away. This is exactly what the Pakistani Posts did – fired back at the helicopters, in self defence with all available weapons including artillery.

23. Despite being informed by Pakistan at 2340 Afghan Standard Time (AST) about the aggression by US forces, the engagement of Pakistani Posts continued until 0104 (AST) (Paraphrased by Pakistan Military – References: Annex D, Page D-6, Serial N and Page 13, Para 12 of US Investigation Report) for as long as 1 hour and 24 minutes. In the process, every soldier on and around the posts, even on reverse slope of the Ridge, was individually targeted. This pattern of

engagement cannot be justified by calling it „self defence‟. According to the US Investigation Report, three main aerial fire engagements of Pakistani Posts by US / ISAF took place. Multiple fire engagements by US aerial platforms took place after information about US / ISAF aggression against the Pakistani Posts had been shared at multiple levels, by Pakistan Military, and after Pakistani Military was assured that the fire engagement was being stopped.

24. While this extended fire engagement of Pakistani Posts was going on, the Pakistani Liaison Officer at NBCC was informed about an incident “
just after midnight” (Reference: Page 14, Para 14, Line 11 of US Investigation Report). By this time both the Pakistani Border Posts had already been targeted by fire. Even when the information was shared, albeit extremely belatedly, with Liaison Officer NBCC, it was of a general area 14 kilometres north of the actual engagement area (Paraphrased by Pakistan Military – Reference: Page 14, Para 14 of US Investigation Report).

25. It is evident from the US Investigation Report that Pakistani Liaison Officer was intentionally not provided with specific map references i.e. LAT/ LONGs “
The BSO (Battle Space Owner) (TF (Task Force) BRONCO), then called the NBCC to report the GF was being engaged. Per RC-E instructions, the BSO passed the exact grid location of the source of hostile fire to the NBCC but informed the NBCC to only pass a general location to the NBCC’s PAKMIL LNO (Liaison Officer) as part of the NBCC’s effort to have the NBCC’s PAKMIL LNO confirm whether or not PAKMIL were at the location of the hostile fire. The NBCC then passed a general location to their PAKMIL LNO using GIRoA (Government of Islamic Republic of Afghanistan) district borders as a geographic reference” {Reference: Page 22, Para (3) & (4) of US Investigation Report }. At no stage did the Pakistani Liaison Officer say that there were no Pakistani Military Troops in the area. He just could not have said so without map references being provided to him. Therefore, the US Investigation Report is amiss when it states on Page 22, Para 4, Lines 4 and 5 that the Pakistani LO stated that there were no

Pakistani Military troops in the area. US / ISAF have overlooked the fact that by the time information was shared with Pakistani LO, both the Pakistani Posts had already been struck by US / ISAF fire making the whole argument irrelevant.

26. Precious lives could have been saved, had the US / ISAF chain of command / staff been more responsive and alive to the situation. There was no urgency whatsoever in a situation where due to use of overwhelming and disproportionate force by US, lives were being lost and where time was of extreme essence. This displays utter disregard for the lives of the Pakistani soldiers. In the words of the Investigation Report, “
time sensitive senior Command override measures for border area incidents are lacking” (Reference: Page 5, Para 3, Line 12).

Stage 3: Reaction

(Post Action Events)

27. The intelligence picture depicted in the Investigation Report is erroneous and biased wherein it states
“Reports have indicated INS (insurgents) have been wearing PAKMIL uniforms in order to move freely across the border. The ABP (Afghan Border Police) report indiscriminate shooting incidents against civilians and their livestock in the Maya Valley from the border” (Reference: Page 8, Para 5, Lines 4 through 7). The investigating officer has accepted without verification, the assertions of the Afghan Border Police especially because he and his Investigation Team, according to the Investigation Report, could not visit Village Maya and other areas close to the site of the incident. The US / ISAF Investigation Report states, “Security concerns did not allow the investigating teams to safely travel to the villages on either side of the Afghanistan – Pakistan border that were near the area of the incident” (Reference: Page 7, Footnote to Para 3.a., Lines 2 through 4). A few months back in October this year, the Afghan authorities at the highest level had blamed Pakistan publicly for firing hundreds of rounds / rockets and killing numerous civilians in Kunar. ISAF leadership having inquired into the matter confirmed to Pakistan Military leadership that Afghan assertions could not be substantiated and that these were

a result of misinformation originating from the Afghan Border. The allegation against Pakistan was later denied publicly by the Afghan President by agreeing to the ISAF‟s viewpoint that no artillery / rocket fire had originated from Pakistan. In this backdrop, for the investigating team to take the comments of some individuals located close to the international border on the Afghan side at “face value” and mention them in their report without thorough investigation brings into question the whole exercise.

28. Moreover, reports of discovery of Pakistani Law Enforcement Agencies‟ uniforms from Maya Village after the end of Operation SAYAQA is an unconvincing attempt to cover the US / ISAF attacks by giving a misleading impression that Pakistani soldiers on Volcano and Boulder posts may well have been mistaken by US / ISAF to be anyone else.

Summary of Pakistan’s Viewpoint
29. Pakistan does not agree with several portions and findings of the Investigation Report as these are not factually correct.

30. Pakistan expresses its regret over the mandate and terms of reference given to the Investigating Team which was not mandated to determine or affix responsibility for the incident. (Reference: General Mattis‟ letter to Brigadier General Stephen Clark dated 28 November 2011 appointing him as Investigating Officer, Page 3, Paras 9 and 10).

31. Pakistan has noted US / ISAF acceptance of its failures, which Pakistan believes were deep, varied and systemic. There have been several similar, though not as grave, US / ISAF failings in the past. Despite promises of thorough investigations, US / ISAF failed to hold anyone accountable after each of these incidents. (Details at Page 2, Para 5 of
this Report).

32. The fundamental cause of the incident of 26
th November 2011 was the failure of US / ISAF to share its near-border operation, with Pakistan at any level. It is highly regrettable that despite this major failing, the Investigation Report has tried to pin partial responsibility on Pakistan (Paraphrased by Pakistan Military – Reference: Page 4, Para 3 of US Investigation Report). Establishing positive identification of the Pakistani Posts which was lacking and which has been acknowledged in the US / ISAF report, was the direct and clear responsibility of US / ISAF who were, by their own admission, carrying out a near-border operation. Positive identification could very conveniently have been done by a simple Intelligence Surveillance and Reconnaissance Aircraft sweep which the US Investigation Report itself has also recommended, (Reference: Page 27, Para 43, Lines 7-8).

33. US / ISAF violated all mutually agreed procedures with Pakistan for near-border operations put in place to avert such uncalled for actions. It is increasingly obvious to Pakistan Military that the entire coordination mechanism has been reduced to an exercise in futility, is more for the purposes of optics and that it has

repeatedly been undermined. There were instructions given to US personnel, as mentioned in the US / ISAF Investigation Report, wherein the
information to Pakistan Military was to be deliberately withheld. Had the disclosure been honest and as per the agreed procedures, the attacks could have been stopped at the earliest and precious lives saved. Even a cursory reading of Paragraph 38. b. (1) on Page 24 of US Investigation Report would confirm Pakistan‟s contention. The said sub-paragraph reads: “The TF (Task Force) BRONCO battle captain provided specific grid references to the ISAF LNO (ISAF Liaison Officer) at NBCC (Nawa Border Coordination Centre) with the stipulation that these specific coordinates were not to be provided to the NBCC’s PAKMIL LNO (Pakistan Military Liaison Officer) and that only a general location was to be passed”. The very purpose of sharing information about fire originating from Pakistan was for Pakistan to suppress / stop it. Without giving exact map references (LAT / LONGs), how could this have been achieved?

34. According to well established mutually agreed procedures, in case of fire originating from across the border, the responsibility to suppress / stop it rests on the side from where the fire is originating. In the present instance, no such intimation was received from the US / ISAF. Such an intimation would have demonstrated the bona fides of the US / ISAF stance. The only intimation that was conveyed to the Pakistan Liaison Officer at Nawa Border Coordination Centre was
after both the posts had been struck by fire and even this late intimation was incorrect by as much as 14 kilometres. The US Investigation Report states, “It was later discovered that a misconfigured electronic CPOF (Command Post of the Future) map overlay was used by the NBCC (Nawa Border Coordination Centre), this caused the NBCC to refer the NBCC’s PAKMIL LNO (Pakistan Military Liaison Officer) to a “general location” that was 14km to the north of the actual engagement area” (Reference: Page 14, Para 14, Lines 13 through 15).

35. In an effort to provide justification for US / ISAF actions, the Investigation Report has gone to extreme lengths to construct the whole incident as an act of

“self defence” and the force used by US / ISAF / NATO as legal and proportionate. At no stage did the Pakistani Posts fire on, or in the direction of the Helicopter Landing Zone or the route from Helicopter Landing Zone to Maya Village. The sketch of the incident site at
Figure – 2 (Maya Village has been marked on the map as per the map references provided by ISAF Coordination Element Pakistan / ODRP) clearly belies the ISAF assertion about responding in self defence. The report accepts that there were no US / ISAF casualties, yet it still argues the self defence Rules of Engagement by stating that the “fire on GFs (Ground Forces) was effective” (Paraphrased by Pakistan Military – Reference: Page F-2, Paras 6 and 7). In fact, it were the Pakistani Posts which were defending against an unprovoked attack. Pakistan, therefore, rejects the findings of the US Investigation Report that: “the catalyst for this tragedy ultimately was the initial and continuing engagement by PAKMIL (Pakistan Military) forces on Coalition Forces – who in turn responded accordingly and appropriately” (Reference: Page 29, Para 53, Lines 2 through 4). The US Investigation Report in fact ignores the sentiments and questions the intelligence of the Pakistani people by stating that “The LOAC (Law of Armed Conflict) was respected and the ROE (Rules of Engagement) were applied correctly and legally” (Reference: Annex I, Page I-1, Para 8).

36. The following facts and their sequence, strengthen the opinion that the said incident was
deliberate at some level:-

a. US / ISAF having carried out 1-2 operations in and around Maya Village prior to 26
th November incident in the months of October / November, (Paraphrased by Pakistan Military – Reference: Page 15, Para 18, Lines 4-5 of US Investigation Report), having seen and closely monitored Pakistan‟s nine months long operation in Mohmand Agency leading to the creation of Volcano and Boulder Posts, the location of the posts atop a barren ridge as high as approximately 8000 feet and the US / ISAF‟s cutting edge surveillance / observation technology, all defy US / ISAF contention

that they were unaware about the location of these Pakistani Posts. (There have been incidents in the past where as small an activity, as addition of new weapons on
existing Pakistani posts by Pakistan Military, were immediately noticed by US / ISAF and their purpose discussed with Pakistan).

b. The US aircraft / helicopters continued to target Pakistani Military personnel deliberately for two hours. Even the US Investigation Report admits the attack spread over
“90 minutes” - far too long a time for an “innocent” engagement. According to the US Investigation Report, three main aerial fire engagements of Pakistani Posts by US / ISAF took place. Multiple fire engagements by US aerial platforms took place after information about US / ISAF aggression against the Pakistani Posts had been shared at multiple levels, by Pakistan Military, and after Pakistani Military was assured that the fire engagement was being stopped.

c. Even if we assume that these posts were not known to US / ISAF, within minutes of initiation of unprovoked attack by US, US / ISAF had been informed at multiple levels by the Pakistani side, but they continued firing with impunity.

d. All Pakistani soldiers were in uniform and could not be mistaken for anyone else.

e. The failure in timely sharing of Concept of Operations even with concerned
US coordination staff at Nawa Border Coordination Centre and ISAF Coordination Element Pakistan (which is located in US Embassy Islamabad and manned exclusively by US personnel) raises serious doubts about the incident being “accidental“.

f. It is highly improbable that such a large number of mistakes (as acknowledged in the US Investigation Report) could have been coincidental.

37. Unfortunately the impartiality and transparency of the investigation was adversely affected when senior US officials repeatedly stated that the incident was “not intentional”, without waiting for completion of the Investigation. Pakistan believes that this stance may well have influenced the findings of the report.

38. Due to complicated chain of command, complex command and control structure and unimaginative / intricate Rules of Engagement (all acknowledged in US / ISAF Investigation Report), the responsibility for failing to stop the attack rests squarely on US / ISAF. Pakistan Army on its part had, on numerous occasions and at all levels, highlighted the potential problems associated with not having all the forces in the Afghan theatre under a unified command. The activities and operations of US Special Forces and Afghanistan Border Police are but two examples which have been raised consistently by the Pakistani side. The incident of 19
th July 2011 in Angoor Adda Sector of South Waziristan Agency, (details mentioned on Page 2, Para 5 of this Report) was also, we believe, a result of lack of unified military command in Afghanistan.

39. Pakistan Military is dismayed to learn that despite being ten years into the war, one reason to which the incident of 26
th November 2011 has been attributed is, “imprecise terminology between the RC-E JOC (Regional Command – East Joint Operations Centre) and SOTF-E JOC (Special Operations Task Force – East Joint Operations Centre)” (Reference: Page 24, sub-para e, Line 1 of US Investigation Report). This is disturbingly indicative of fundamental flaws in the US / ISAF / NATO procedures.

40. US / ISAF / NATO in knowingly targeting Pakistani Posts well inside Pakistan were in clear violation of the ISAF mandate which is limited to Afghanistan alone.

41. The recommendation of the US / ISAF Investigating Report stating,
“train and practice procedures for cross-border and near-border operations including time-sensitive procedures” (Reference: Page 5, Para 4, Lines 4-5 of US Investigation Report) is maleficent. Investigating an incident which involves breach of Pakistan‟s territorial integrity and sovereignty and putting in a recommendation of how to do it better next time is potentially troublesome for any future cooperation and border coordination.

Additional Details Required
42. Following additional details are required, which may be provided for completing our analysis / assessment:-

a. The full and complete classified version of the US Investigation Report be made available.

b. Provision of Intelligence Surveillance and Reconnaissance picture of the complete incident along with all aerial platform videos and record of radio transmissions and communication between the crew(s) of the aerial platforms involved in the incident.

Concluding Remarks
43. The US / ISAF Investigation Report into the 26
th November 2011 incident, apart from being factually incorrect, also brings to fore the larger issue of lack of trust of US / ISAF towards the Pakistani Military. Moreover, the unprovoked engagement of Pakistani Posts located inside Pakistan was a clear violation of US / ISAF mandate which is limited to Afghanistan alone. Unfortunately, this was not the first incident of this kind as US / ISAF / NATO have been involved in at least four similar incidents in the past, after each of which, US / ISAF regretted the incident and resolved to prevent recurrence. Not only did the recurrence of incidents continue but as far as we know, no one was ever actually held accountable.

44. The US Investigation Report, is structured around the argument of “self defence” and “proportional use of force”, an argument which is contrary to factsand therefore self serving. Sustained aggression which continued for as long as
“90 minutes” despite US / ISAF being informed about the incident at multiple levels by Pakistan Military within minutes of initiation of US / ISAF fire, belies the “self defence” and “proportional use of force” contention.

45. Failure to share information about a near-border operation with Pakistan at any level was a major US / ISAF / NATO omission, as were several others, like the complicated chain of command, complex command and control structure and unimaginative / intricate Rules of Engagement as well as lack of unified military command in Afghanistan.

46. There have clearly been several failures on the part of US / ISAF / NATO (as acknowledged in the US Investigation Report). Trying to affix partial responsibility of the incident on Pakistan (Reference: Page 29, Para 53, Lines 3-4 of US Investigation Report) is, therefore, unjustified and unacceptable.